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Cathy Toft

Davis California

My hope for this web site is that it helps to promote positive reinforcement training, by providing clear and easy access to information about this training method.

 

 

 

A brief guide to the web site contents:

  • The "Lexicon" defines and organizes the confusing terminology behind the 4 operant conditioning quadrants:  negative vs. positive and reinforcement vs. punishment.

  • "Examples" provides some concrete applications of operant conditioning, contrasting positive vs. negative reinforcement.

  • "Guide" summarizes how one goes about training a dog with positive reinforcement only.

  • "Myths" addresses some misconception about clickers and their role in positive reinforcement training.

  • "Punishment" explains why use of positive and even negative punishment can have undesired side effects and is not as effective as positive reinforcement in changing a dog's behavior.

 

My position on

shock collars.

  • "Rescue Dogs" shares how to apply positive reinforcement training in the rehabilitation of fearful and aggressive dogs, such as often come into rescue.

  • "DAPS" is the link to my other web site, for "Dog Agility Pre-School. There the class section has short handouts on applying positive reinforcement training in foundation training of working dogs.

 

No Shock Collars

My shock collar

self test

 

My journey to all positive reinforcement training.

Like quite a few in this generation of "Truly Dog Friendly" trainers, who use only positive reinforcement training, I started out as a typical traditional trainer of this era, using a mixture of corrections and lure-and-reward as the main way of "teaching" my dog new behaviors.

 

Unlike some of my trainer friends who made this transition, however, I did not have a huge epiphany that caused a sudden transformation to "see the light" and discard corrections from my tool bag one day.  Instead, I experienced a number of small epiphanies--light bulb moments--and the better I got at positive reinforcement training, the more I could see that it worked better than anything I'd tried before and the less I used corrections.

 

I began dog training late in life, when I got my first dog as an adult in 1994 (Kallie--her story here).  I had a lot to learn about dog training and I immediately enrolled Kallie in a pet dog class, which was even a bit progressive at the time because the instructor encouraged us to use food rewards.  We had, however, been issued 6' leather leashes and a choke chain as our foundation training tools. 

 

I came to dog training at this point from a long career (25 years and counting at that point) as a professional biologist, and as a scientist with expertise in the field of animal behavior.  I was taken aback often by the degree of superstitious and anthropomorphic advice that I was given by all of my various dog training instructors.  Usually their remedy for changing behavior after lure and reward did not work was giving the dog a whale of a choke chain "correction," sometimes trying to knock the dog off its feet.  I was impressed with how poorly that method seemed to work (in other words, I couldn't tell any difference before or after), but I was usually admonished that my timing was bad, that I was too timid with my corrections (much better to "get in" a big one and get it over with), and that I wasn't very good at establishing who was "boss." 

 

Overall, dog training started out as fun, but as I progressed, it felt worse and worse.  When I ended up training dogs to herd, and was advised to throw heavy objects at them, and slam them to the ground, I recoiled.  I began to become interested in electronic (remote) shock collars, because they seemed to be an improvement over these other methods that required I physically hurt and frighten my dog in crude, imprecise, and often quite harmful ways (one instructor told about accidentally breaking a dog's leg...).

 

In 1995 I decided to learn how to use a shock collar, and I trained for two years with Jim Dobbs, an experienced gun dog trainer, who'd worked with Tritronics for years to help them field test and develop their shock collars.  He was (still is) an excellent trainer.  The best part was that he used strictly operant conditioning (negative reinforcement) in a precise, unemotional manner and he rejected all of the superstitions I'd been taught. He used instead well established principles of learning theory.  He also treated each dog as an individual and refused to consider generalizations about a dog's breed as he approached training that particular dog.  I learned a great deal from him and considered him to be the best trainer I'd worked with, by far, until that time.  He maintained a broad curiosity about dog training and generously shared it with his clients.  In the last conversation I had with him, he told me how interested he was in learning more about clicker training.

 

Because of Jim, I was able to approach dog training in a neutral, objective, and scientific manner. I did not have to swallow implausible superstitions and anthropomorphisms.

 

Why did I quit training with shock collars?  Mid-way into the two years that I spent learning to use shock collars, I learned about the clicker and began to experiment with it.  Then I adopted Babe, the most unreachable dog anyone could imagine.  I tried to train her with a shock collar, once--and it was such an abject failure, I never tried that again.  In fact, I began to understand how negative reinforcement worked in a deeper way than I'd ever understood before. When you use R-, the dog must have something better to compare it to:  Jim always said "It's a matter of pleasure and displeasure" as he explained the use of the shock collar to each new client. But if you have an animal that gets absolutely no pleasure at all in being with you, or even in life, then negative reinforcement cannot work. It's all bad.  There's no "better" alternative for the dog to choose.

 

Babe forced me to become an expert in positive reinforcement training, and believe me, it wasn't easy.  It was like trying to train with one arm tied behind my back. Each time I failed to change her behavior with positive reinforcement, and tried a quick fix with positive punishment and negative reinforcement, my experiment blew up on me.  Babe was so incredibly difficult to reach that each setback in the hard-won progress that I'd made with her was too much to bear.  So I stopped reaching for quick fixes with punishment.  Morgan Spector says in his book Clicker Training for Obedience that the use of positive punishment is always to make up for trainer error.  With Babe, and many times since then, his words have rung truer than I'd imagined possible when I first read them.

 

Eventually, I compared the shock collar and the clicker head-to-head.  They are reinforcement analogs in one sense, and that is that they are both unemotional and absolutely precise.  The shock collar provides a punishment that goes away the instant that the dog performs a behavior that the trainer wants to strengthen, and the clicker marks the instant that the dog performs a behavior that the trainer wants to strengthen and promises a reward.

 

At first, I considered the shock collar and the clicker to be equally useful tools in my trainer's tool bag.  But as I got better at positive reinforcement training, I began to compare the effectiveness of the two methods.  In another light bulb moment, I witnessed the stress my dog Megan began to exhibit when we trained with a shock collar.  One day her teeth were rattling so hard I thought they would break.  I remember Morgan Spector's story of seeing how his sheltie's hair was worn off on one side of his neck by the jerking of the choke chain, and Pat Miller's moment of seeing her dog disappear under the porch when it came time to train.  Since then, I witness the diametrical opposite when the clicker comes out.  The dogs are frantic to train.  They are falling all over themselves, eyes glowing and wide with anticipation. They are offering all of the behaviors in their repertoire just to get a chance to get their turn to train. 

 

Eventually I found that punishment of all kinds, whether caused by a shock collar or other method, creates stress in the dogs and is a blunt instrument for modifying a dog's behavior. If you are happy with a dog that does nothing, which is what punishment often creates, then you might not suffer from the side-effects of its use (your dog still will).  But if you want a dog that performs behaviors willingly and eagerly with precision off leash, as I do in my participation in dog agility, then there is no use whatsoever for punishment as a tool.  In one of my light bulb moments, I read Karen Pryor's article on the Poisoned Cue in the first issue of Teaching Dogs Magazine.  In it she explains the perils of mixing aversives with rewards, of mixing positive and negative reinforcement.

 

Then, when you train your first all-positive-reinforcement dog, you realize what you were missing all along. There is no comparison whatsoever in the results, contrasting the traditionally trained dog with one trained with all-positive reinforcement.  And, there is no going back. 

 

Read more:

What's wrong with using punishment?

My current position on shock collars.

 

 

© Catherine Toft 2007